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Parfumerie Generale No. 24, Papyrus de Ciane ~ fragrance review

Posted by Kevin on 3 March 2010 70 Comments

Ophelia

Bring on the stems, leaves, grasses — I’m always in the mood for ‘green’ fragrances. Green-tinged perfumes are refreshing and often “cool” in tone; they convey the idea of “growth,” especially new growth of plants. Spring is the perfect time for a green cologne to debut, and I’ve been looking forward to smelling Parfumerie Generale Papyrus de Ciane (No. 24).

Perfumer Pierre Guillaume has gotten a lot of online media coverage for Papyrus de Ciane and much of it references his use of a legendary component of early 20th century fragrances: Mousse de Saxe. I’ll let others discuss the chemical composition of Mousse de Saxe and its reconfiguration for Papyrus de Ciane; my only “concern” is: How does Papyrus de Ciane smell on me?

Papyrus de Ciane’s “published” list of notes is varied (online at Parfumerie Generale only five components are mentioned: galbanum, broom, mild plant note, Mousse de Saxe, Silvanone® Supra (musk); in interviews, Guillaume has also mentioned bergamot, neroli, mugwort, cistus labdanum, lavender, clove, vetiver, incense and hedione.

Papyrus de Ciane begins with a mix of citrus, “white flowers” and delicious and strong galbanum (the galbanum crystallizes and turns soft and powdery fast); Papyrus de Ciane’s green notes are not wild and sharp or particularly “clear and water-y” (as the references to papyrus and the River Ciane may lead you to believe) — they’re talc-y and cloudy. As Papyrus de Ciane dries down, I detect small “puffs” of cistus labdanum/(birch tar?) and frankincense. When the fragrance reaches the end of its development, I smell vetiver, comfy musk and clean moss; these notes meld to form a pleasing smoky-green/vegetal-musky powder (let’s call it “green pollen”).

Every spring, a dear friend laments the fact that many of her friends and family are no longer alive to experience the glory of springtime, its bounty of blossoms and fragrance, its new leaves and grasses. The aromas of Papyrus de Ciane make me introspective too. It’s not the cool and refreshing fragrance I was expecting; it’s more complex — dare I say, “wistful” — and reminded me of the lines: That man’s life is but a dream — Is what we now come to know./Its house abandoned, the garden has become home to butterflies.*

Parfumerie Generale Papyrus de Ciane

Papyrus de Ciane’s lasting power is good and its sillage is mild. I wouldn’t call Papyrus de Ciane an “old-fashioned” fragrance, but during the opening and dry-down it has a “retro” vibe with its galbanum, white floral note, leather and mossy bits. Dabbed on, it smells a tad womanly and refined; sprayed on generously it comes alive and loses all “primness.”

Papyrus de Ciane (while not smelling exactly like any of them) reminded me of several perfumes I’ve worn recently — a scent by Issey Miyake (more “lush” and decidedly more feminine than Papyrus de Ciane), Nasomatto China White (more audacious, intense and quirky) and Annick Goutal Ninféo Mio (crisper, more herbal-green).

Parfumerie Generale Papyrus de Ciane is available in 30, 50 and 100 ml Eau de Parfum (59€, 88€ and 120€ respectively); for buying information, see the listing for Parfumerie Generale under Perfume Houses.

* Spring by Sogi (1421-1502) translated by Steven Carter, pg. 196, in Zen Poems (Selected and Edited by Peter Harris), Alfred A Knopf, Inc./Everyman’s Library, 1999.

Note: top image is Ophelia [cropped] by John Everett Millais via Wikimedia Commons.

Possibly of interest

Summer greens ~ fragrance reviews
Aftelier Joie de Vert ~ fragrance review
Vilhelm Parfumerie Chicago High & Imaginary Authors The Soft Lawn Edition 2.0 ~ fragrance reviews

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Tagged With: green, parfumerie generale

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  1. mjr17 says:
    3 March 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Great review, Kevin. I’m so thrilled to read it because a split of this is coming my way in the near future – hooray! Also, Millais’ Ophelia is a favorite of mine — and it’s perfect for your review. I admire your way with words, images, and of course, scents!

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 2:32 pm

      mjr17: Thanks! And enjoy your Papyrus de Ciane.

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  2. capillary says:
    3 March 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Thanks for the thoughtful review, Kevin, I’m looking forward to trying this one. I love the choice of painting, too, which is making me wonder what a Pre-Raphaelite would smell like. Apres l’Ondee for Waterhouse? And Parfum Sacre for Rossetti?

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 2:33 pm

      Capillary: yes, interesting idea to ponder!

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    • aimiliona says:
      3 March 2010 at 3:42 pm

      Rossetti had a pet wombat, so I imagine mega-hamster cage, turpentine, and a bit of saffron and benzoin from laudanum additives.

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      • Kevin says:
        3 March 2010 at 5:13 pm

        aimilona: we’ll convert the wombat to “musk” and the hamster cage to “hay” and it could be good!

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  3. Minnie says:
    3 March 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Dear Kevin: You just made me realize that a “green” fragrance is just what I’m missing from my wardrobe! Beautiful review, as always! Love the quote!

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 2:34 pm

      Minnie: you must have a green in your collection!

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  4. Joe says:
    3 March 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Hi Kevin. I can’t wait for my small decant of this to arrive. I too wondered if it were similar to A Scent or even Cristalle Eau Verte. It certainly sounds less floral (both of those can be a bit screechy).

    I love the idea of “green pollen.” I just received a bottle of Amyitis by Mona di Orio and that description fits it well: it’s a very unusual and mossy scent, and nothing like any other “greens” I’ve owned or sampled. I anticipate smelling Papyrus soon (and I’m glad PG is doing 30ml bottles now!).

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 2:35 pm

      Joe: I’ll have to try Amyitis (sounds like a disease brought on by Amy)

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      • Joe says:
        3 March 2010 at 2:38 pm

        A commenter on one blog stated, “Inflammation of the Amy.” I’ll try to remember to send you a sample.

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        • Kevin says:
          3 March 2010 at 2:41 pm

          Joe: HA! “inflamed Amy”!

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    • Daisy says:
      3 March 2010 at 5:47 pm

      to me this did not resemble Cristalle Eau Verte. It did remind me quite a bit of the original (vintage?) Cristalle. Very green with a sharpness that was almost peppery….not black pepper but more like jalepeno peppers. A lot of leaves and grasses…I didn’t get a floral note at all in it. But my skin tends to “pick-a-note” and runs with it.

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  5. Thanna says:
    3 March 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Thanks for this review. Talc-y and cloudy green notes sound like something that I need to try. So many green scents are too sharp and headache inducing for me.

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 2:36 pm

      Thanna: I like sharp greens too, but this is a nice change.

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  6. asuperlongusername says:
    3 March 2010 at 2:13 pm

    This has been sounding test-worthy before but then you compared it to China White, my most recent FB purchase. The fact that nothing in my current collection is green makes this even more appealing. Thanks for the review!

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 2:37 pm

      asuperlongusername: you’re welcome.

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  7. mals86 says:
    3 March 2010 at 2:13 pm

    It’s wonderful to read a review that both tells me, clearly, how a fragrance smells as well as how it feels. Another beautifully-written review, Kevin, thanks.

    “Nostalgic green pollen” will be getting nose time with me soon. Maybe when spring finally arrives, I’ll manage to dig up a sample. There’s still snow on the ground here; I know that any green scent is likely to be underwhelming in this weather. But spring always comes, doesn’t it?

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 2:38 pm

      mals86: spring WILL arrive! (didn’t get a flake of snow all winter here in Seattle)

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    • boojum says:
      3 March 2010 at 2:45 pm

      I wish our “green scent” season was longer here, too. By this time of year, I’m beyond tired of winter and itching to wear all my greens… but you’re right, in this weather, they fall a bit flat. A small decant of this one is headed my way as well… and it’s a good thing, because K’s review would have me kicking myself otherwise for missing it.

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      • Kevin says:
        3 March 2010 at 5:14 pm

        boojum: hope you like it!

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        • boojum says:
          20 March 2010 at 12:01 pm

          Spritzed a little on this morning…and after a quick blast of green, I get straight church incense. I’d love this in a candle; on skin, I’ll have to give it a few more tries to see if I can pull it off.

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  8. RusticDove says:
    3 March 2010 at 2:22 pm

    What a lovely and touching review Kevin – I got a little misty. Almost everything about this fragrance, in theory anyway, sounds tempting. Even the lavender doesn’t scare me [which could be a difficult note for me] – it doesn’t seem to be a big factor here. I really want to give this a try.

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 2:39 pm

      RusticDove: no, do not let lavender scare you off…I really didn’t detect it.

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      • mals86 says:
        3 March 2010 at 4:50 pm

        Re the lavender: GOOD!

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    • Daisy says:
      3 March 2010 at 4:48 pm

      well, darn it Rustic, seems like my shipping label /printer snaffu is working in your favor—-I still have your package in my car ready to mail (most of the others made it out before the missing ink problem) I shall slice ‘er open and send you a sample of Papyrus! I’ll do it now so I don’t forget. 🙂

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      • RusticDove says:
        3 March 2010 at 5:12 pm

        Cool! 🙂

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  9. meadowbliss says:
    3 March 2010 at 2:43 pm

    So evocative of spring and hope and everything verdant and green….this sounds like a must have for me. Who wrote the quote? Beautiful review!

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 5:15 pm

      meadowbliss: see the note at the bottom of the post: Sogi.

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  10. Astra says:
    3 March 2010 at 3:12 pm

    “…these notes meld to form a pleasing smoky-green/vegetal-musky powder (let’s call it “green pollen”).”

    There is nothing pleasing about spring pollen, green or otherwise. 🙂

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 5:16 pm

      Astra: I assume you’ll be sneezing and wheezing your way thru spring/summer?

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      • Astra says:
        3 March 2010 at 5:48 pm

        Exactly.

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    • ggperfume says:
      3 March 2010 at 7:27 pm

      Agree!

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  11. raluca says:
    3 March 2010 at 3:19 pm

    I realised I didn’t have a green in my wardrobe and I crave a green (is it the spring coming?). Cabaret and Eau de Jatamansi are not enough. The greenest I have is…Jardin en mediteranee. I am desperate.

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 5:17 pm

      Raluca: you need “greener” for sure!

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  12. miss kitty v. says:
    3 March 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Dang it, just when I thought I had my lemming under control? (Why does that sound like I own an unruly varmint?) I’ll have to put a sample order in for this when I buy my Bois Blond.

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    • miss kitty v. says:
      3 March 2010 at 3:24 pm

      Not that anyone cares, but that was supposed to be an exclamation point and not a question mark after the first sentence.

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      • Kevin says:
        3 March 2010 at 5:18 pm

        Don’t worry, both work.

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      • mals86 says:
        3 March 2010 at 10:18 pm

        Girl. CAGE that lemming!

        And don’t feed it bananas.

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    • Daisy says:
      3 March 2010 at 4:50 pm

      Ah, miss Kitty—your packet is in the same lamentable group as Rustic’s —-I’ll send you a sample…..going to get both packets now….

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      • RusticDove says:
        3 March 2010 at 5:12 pm

        We lucked out Miss K.

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        • Daisy says:
          3 March 2010 at 5:50 pm

          “luck” was not one of the words I was using at the time I was having my printer issues….the spelling is close though.
          Now I don’t feel so badly about the packets that got held up! The Perfume Gods knew you would need something added…. 🙂

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          • RusticDove says:
            3 March 2010 at 6:06 pm

            😀

          • miss kitty v. says:
            3 March 2010 at 11:25 pm

            Well, I’m glad it worked in our favor that your printer lucked up. Hee hee.

          • Daisy says:
            3 March 2010 at 11:39 pm

            :-O

  13. lovethescents says:
    3 March 2010 at 3:25 pm

    I agree with you…I loooooove greens in the spring! I’m always ready for Bel Respiro, Chanel no19, CdG’s Calamus when March hits…I’ve also been really looking forward to trying Papyrus (am waiting for a decant) and am even more impatient following your review!

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    • boojum says:
      3 March 2010 at 4:32 pm

      Sounds like I need to add Calamus to the to-try list, judging by the company it’s in!

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 5:19 pm

      lovethescents: may it arrive soon.

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  14. Haunani says:
    3 March 2010 at 3:58 pm

    I’m with you folks who love the sound of green pollen. Thanks for the new item for my test list, Kevin! 😉

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  15. Kevin says:
    3 March 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Haunani: referencing Miss K above is that a Thanks! (I’m so happy!) or Thanks? (Am I really ordering another sample?) HAHA!

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    • Haunani says:
      3 March 2010 at 7:29 pm

      Well, um, a little of both!

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  16. Lucy-belle says:
    3 March 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Wow, this sounds fabulous especially due to your poetic writing! I love all the notes – however I do find I am quite allergic to “white florals” so I’m hoping their subdued compared to the glorious greens! How perfect for this time of year! I am starting to watch my bulbs emerge from all the browns and greys in my gardens. I am happily anticipating a glorious Utah Springtime.

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 7:45 pm

      Lucy-Belle: same here…the cherry and plum trees are in full bloom and I’m very happy. The white floral note (orange blossom?) does not stand out too much…it blends “into” the perfume nicely.

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  17. RusticDove says:
    3 March 2010 at 6:48 pm

    One of the interesting distinctions of mugwort: “Much used in witchcraft, mugwort is said to be useful in inducing lucid dreaming and astral travel/astral projection.” This perfume will have some advantageous aspects. 😉

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 7:47 pm

      Rustic Dove: I’ve had WAAAAY too much lucid dreaming lately. Now I’m wondering if my screams were induced by that tuna sandwich or Papyrus de Ciane! HA!

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      • RusticDove says:
        3 March 2010 at 7:53 pm

        This just may be your answer! 😉

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  18. ajuarez says:
    3 March 2010 at 7:01 pm

    I just ordered the Spring Spritz Sample pack from LuckyScent and Papyrus happens to be in the pack can’t wait to try this.

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    • RusticDove says:
      3 March 2010 at 7:45 pm

      Yes! I just got that email and I’m going to order it too. 🙂

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 7:47 pm

      Ajuarez: hope you enjoy it…pour on the whole sample vial for the REAL experience.

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  19. maggiecat says:
    3 March 2010 at 9:43 pm

    I too just purchased the sample pack and am looking forward to trying all the scents (I already love Tocca’s Bianca!) Thanks for the review Kevin.

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    • Kevin says:
      3 March 2010 at 11:23 pm

      Maggie: you’re welcome…seems we all got that LuckyScent email at the same time. HA!

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  20. Teger says:
    4 March 2010 at 9:55 am

    I agree that it smells somewhat ‘retro’, but not in a bad dated way. Did you get much lavender? When smelling my arm, besides the green notes, lavender was there smiling at me. LOL.

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    • Kevin says:
      4 March 2010 at 12:37 pm

      Teger: no, didn’t get much lavender at all…it was “submerged” I thought.

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  21. ScentRed says:
    4 March 2010 at 11:18 am

    FYI – I just got an email notice that Luckyscent currently has a Spring Spritz sample pack which includes PG Papyrus de Ciane, Tocca Bianca, Calypso Bellini and M. Micallef Shanaan PLUS a complimentary sample of L’Eau Serge Lutens (reviewed today on Perfume Posse) for $12 (+$5 for shipping to Canada, not sure about US).

    It happens to hit a couple I have on my “to try list” and a few I’ve never even heard of, so I’m giving it a whirl.

    p.s. I have no affiliation with Luckyscent. My apologies if this heads-up is against any rules.

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  22. proximity says:
    4 March 2010 at 11:55 am

    Thanks so much for this beautiful review, and especially for the Sogi quote, that was lovey. It reminded me of my favorite quote from Japanese novelist Haruki Murakami – “I am a weed-choked garden, a flightless stone bird, a dry well.”

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    • Kevin says:
      4 March 2010 at 12:39 pm

      Proximity: you’re welcome…Sogi is a favorite.

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  23. bookgirl says:
    5 March 2010 at 4:49 pm

    What a beautifully written post, Kevin. I’ve been itching to try some greens lately, as I’ve grown so bored of my heavy winter samples. Spring is definitely here in socal (we had a lot of rain this winter!): little buds have already begun making their appearance on top of barren branches and there’s a crisp, green scent in the air. I’m off to buy that spring sample pack on Luckyscent!

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    • Kevin says:
      6 March 2010 at 5:09 pm

      Bookgirl: I always loved L.A. after a rainy winter…the hills were so GREEN and clean looking. Enjoy the sample pack!

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  24. nwatts88 says:
    2 June 2010 at 8:31 am

    Just tried it… love it. Reminded me right away of China White, if softer and without the heavy burnt sugar Nasomatto note. Was very glad to see it reminded in the review. It seems like a wonderful cool weather alternative to my Chanel no. 19/ Bandit.
    Now to try Ninefo mio…

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  25. Haunani says:
    17 August 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Very late comment. Just tried this. It’s gorgeous!!

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